Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Where Were The Uncle Tom Smithermans?


Used to be my homey now you act like you don't know me.

In yesterday's blog entry, I asked the question: "Is General Christopher Smitherman An Abuser?" Today, I'm asking a few more questions based on the following statements from General Smitherman. (source) (Please forgive the long quotions.)
Both Jim Tarbell and David Crowley are Cincinnati City Council members now who are over 65 years old. Is it a fair question to ask them what is their life record on civil rights? Where were Council member Tarbell and Council member Crowley when they were 25? They are two white men who are in power today. Were they holding the hoses, getting hosed, or silent between 1964 and 1968? The Jewish community has done a beautiful job holding people accountable for their participation, or lack of, with their struggle. The African American community must do the same.
Ok, General Smitherman. Let's hold David Crowley and Jim Tarbell accountable for their actions. But why stop there? Why don't we hold ALL people accountable for their actions, not just white people, ok? And since you, oh mighty General, are the one issuing ORDERS to the Black community, and, as good subjects, we are obliged to OBEY your orders, why don't we start this accountability process by asking YOU and YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS a few questions.
My grandmother, Mozelle Flowers, was 58 years old when Dr. King was assassinated. Although she is almost 98, she has spent the majority of her life under white supremacy. Dr. Marion Spencer has spent half of her life under white supremacy. She spearheaded the desegregation of the Coney Island swimming pool. Has anyone asked whether David Crowley or Jim Tarbell were standing with Dr. Spencer at the Coney Island gate? There are many other public officials, boardroom executives, company CEOs, and police administrators old enough to be asked the same question....
I know some of you won't like this question, but I think it is a fair one. Since it is fair for General Smitherman to ask a person's parents and grandparents if they stood with Dr. Spencer at the Coney Island gate, it must also be fair to ask where his parents and grandparents were doing this time, right?

I begin with General Smitherman's grandmother, Mozelle Flowers. Before I get to the obvious question, let me give you a little more background on Mrs. Flowers. (link)
Mozelle Flowers, Smitherman's 94-year-old maternal grandmother, made phone calls, knocked on doors, lined up yard sign locations and did anything else she could for her grandson's campaign.

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If the story ended there, that alone would have made for a very special post-election embrace between grandmother and grandson. But because it in a very real sense begins there, the moment was even more poignant.

Flowers grew up in Jim Crow Alabama, in the sinister years when the color of her skin defined where she could go to school, work, shop, eat, sit on a bus or use a restroom. So last Tuesday, the instant when her grandson became a councilman-elect was not only a transcendent moment in Smitherman family history, but a small -- though hardly insignificant -- political footnote marking another step forward in America's progress with the most divisive issue in its history.

"My grandmother said there was a time when she would have never believed that her grandson could even run for City Council, much less win,'' Smitherman said. "I'll never forget that.''

Neither will his grandmother.

"Oh my, yes, I'm so glad the young people today don't have to go through some of what we did,'' she said. "I prayed all day Tuesday that Christopher would reach the end of the rainbow, because that's where there's hope. And he made it.''
Let's recap.... Mrs. Flowers is nearly 98 years old. She grew up in Jim Crow Alabama. Her skin color defined where she could go to school, work, shop, eat, sit on a bus or use a restroom. At 94, Mrs. Flowers made phone calls, knocked on doors, lined up yard sign locations and did anything else she could for her grandson's political campaign. Its time for the questions.
  • When Dr. Spencer was spearheading the desegregation of Coney Island, where was Mrs. Flowers?
  • When Black people, like Rosa Parks, Rev. Dr. Fred Shuttlesworth, and Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. were fighting to end segregation in Alabama, what was Mrs. Flowers' contribution?
  • Is it fair to conclude that in almost 100 years of living on this planet, Mrs. Flowers only found time to get involved and make phone calls, knock on doors, line up yard sign locations and do other things when a member of her family was involved?
  • Did Mrs. Flowers do anything to change the condition so that young people don't have to go through some of what she did, or did she, instead, like so many people (including possibly Crowley and Tarbell) spend her life doing nothing to help anyone except her own family members?
Ok, some of you will undoubtedly claim that there is a difference between Mrs. Flowers and Rosa Parks. Others will note that Crowley and Tarbell are elected officials; Mrs. Flowers is not. But, General Smitherman doesn't INSTRUCT us to limit our questioning to elected officials. He tells us to go after a whole host of people.
There are many other public officials, boardroom executives, company CEOs, and police administrators old enough to be asked the same question....
If we are going to ask public officials, boardroom executives, company CEOs, and police administrators where they were during the civil rights movement and where they were when Dr. Spencer was desegregating Coney Island, then we ought to ask everyone the question.

Where were General Smitherman's parents -- Barbara and Herbert Smitherman -- when Dr. Spencer was desegregating Coney Island?
I am blessed to be able to write in 2007 with complete independence from status quo reprisal. I owe this to my own mother, Barbara Smitherman, M.A., and father, Dr. Herbert Smitherman, Sr., and men like Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Their greatest sacrifices—their life or life’s work—allows me the opportunity today ,at almost 40 years of age, to write and speak freely.
A little more background on Herbert Smitherman. According to this, Herb is the principal of Western Hills Design Technology High School. According to this, Herb is "a former research and development manager with Procter & Gamble who has a doctorate in physical organic chemistry." And according to this, Herb was the first Black Ph.D. hired by Procter & Gamble in the 1960s. So, what role did this well-educated, highly-paid, doctor play during the civil rights movement? Any?

This Cincinnati Post story says General Smitherman's mother, Barbara Smitherman, was a longtime administrator and principal. What did this school administrator and principal do during the civil rights movement?

I could go on and ask what role General Smitherman's siblings played in the civil rights struggles, but I think I've made my point: if the Black community is going to hold people accountable for their participation, or lack thereof, in the struggle, then we need to include everyone, including the Smithermans, and their combined record of participation is virtually non-existent.

One last thing. I refer to the Smitherman family as a bunch of "Uncle Toms" in this blog entry's title because they fit the definition given to us by General Smitherman himself. These people are selfish, only focused on self-advancement, and not concerned about the oppression of Black people (or at least not so concerned that they've ever actually been active in confronting white supremacy).

General Smitherman is even worse than the rest of his family. Its one thing to have no history of participation in the struggle of your day and keep your mouth shut about other people who aren't involved, but it is something entirely different to have no record in the struggle but feel like you are entitled to criticize others. For the record, the civil rights movement, or struggle, didn't end in 1968 with Dr. King's death. The movement/struggle continues today. And General Smitherman has never played an active role in that movement. (I think I'm going to do a whole series of blog entries on this subject.) That said, many of the things this dude is saying are out of order. He hasn't earned the right.
Cincinnati still believes that I need to get in my place because they see me as black. I am an American! I have acted on the dreams of my family and forefathers to have free views and speak my thoughts without encumbrance by the status quo. The status quo wants me at the table, but they do not want to hear me speak. The person who complies with this expectation transforms into the modern-day Uncle Tom whose only focus is self-advancement at the high cost of oppressing his or her own people. Uncle Toms are very important to the maintenance of white supremacy. Dr. King had to navigate around the Uncle Tom’s in the 1960’s as they defined him as a trouble maker not fit to be an American. Today, the status quo is still propping up the black face to support their agenda. Their selfishness decimates “the dream” that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke of to the world.
I don't know all the reasons why so many people dislike General Smitherman, but to play the race card and pretend that everybody dislikes him because of his skin color is downright pathetic! As I've said on this blog many times, once people get to know General Smitherman they see him for the two-faced huckster that he is. I think people have come to realize a few things about General Smitherman.
  • People see Smitherman call Black people names, like Uncle Tom; then whine when people call him names.
  • People see Smitherman attacking people; then complaining when he gets attacked.
  • People realize that Smitherman criticizes other people for what they've done or failed to do; but he hates it when people examine his record (he still won't explain why he voted to give 3CDC and the Chamber of Commerce all that money when he was on Council).
  • People know that Smitherman befriended the gay community; then blasted them when he lost the election, blaming them for his defeat. If Smitherman was a true friend of the GBLT community, he wouldn't have done that. So, his friendship appears to have been purely political.
  • People are finally starting to see that Smitherman orders people to do things that he doesn't do, like when he told people to write Council about the budget and attend the hearings, then he failed to write or call or attend the hearings.
  • Smitherman attacks Black leaders (just this month he has attacked Cecil Thomas and Laketa Cole and urged people to vote them out of office); but never stopped talking about how unfair he was treated by other Blacks and the white press when he was on Council.

17 comments:

Kent said...

Hey Nate,

Mrs. Flowers couldn't have possibly stood with Marion Spencer during the Coney Island gate thing because she wasn't living here at the time. Also, there are some people who stand up for civil rights who don't need the spotlight to show how much standing up they did. So there could be instances where none of us know how active somebody was in a particular struggle because they are working under the radar instead of on t.v. or radio at every turn.

Nate Livingston said...

Kent

General Smitherman is the one demanding that the Black community hold people accountable for their participation, or lack of, with the struggle.

Coney Island was desegregated in 1961. Herbert Smitherman went to work for Procter & Gamble in the 1960s. When, exactly, did Herb get here? When did he bring his mama up? Where was Chris' mother at the time? And where were these people during the fight?

And if Mrs. Flowers wasn't in Cincinnati until after 1961, what was she doing in Alabama to help advance the struggle?

Also, if we are to hold people accountable for their participation, then we are going to have to find out what that participation was. General Smitherman doesn't give any room for people to work "under the radar," he is only interested in them getting on TV or on the radio. It seems that some folks might want to talk to Smitherman about his instructions to the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you back off Grandmother Flowers? You're an extremely disrespectful little flea.

Flowers at least did something, more than I can say for Smitherman. She's reportedly 98 years old. What in the fuck is she supposed to do now? Turn back history & become some sort of a black crusader?

Honestly, the old woman's done more than you'll ever accomplish, Nate. You're noted for running your mouth & not a drop of work.

As for the whiteys "needing" Uncle Toms, the fact is if these blackie Toms are going to pimp & whore for the whiteys, then they deserve to be used as floor mops to clean a dirty floor & used as toilet paper to wipe white asses. But today, you'll see these blackie Toms raking in the gravy as a result of hitching a ride on the white folks.

So, you can forget any of your "Manifestos" & your silly Unite Cincinnati bullshit.

Nate Livingston said...

What a strange comment. Are you mad at me, General Smitherman, or all Black people?

"Flowers at least did something, more than I can say for Smitherman."

What, exactly, did Mrs. Flowers do? Saying that she did more than Smitherman isn't saying much.

"She's reportedly 98 years old. What in the fuck is she supposed to do now? Turn back history & become some sort of a black crusader?"

I don't expect Mrs. Flowers to do anything, including turn back history. I just think General Smitherman's parents and grandparents should be asked to answer the same questions that he wants answered by David Crowley and Jim Tarbell.

Anonymous said...

Did Tarbell press charges against Smitherman for fiendishly choking him.

Anonymous said...

Ronald says,

The role of the Black Man and the Black Woman in the struggle for Civil Rights is much more dynamic than the attributing of merits solely on the basics of who is standing on the front lines! This very concept is trickery, and eroding of the accomplishments of the millions of Black Americans due credit just simply for enduring the daily hardships and struggles encountered on a daily basics to cope, let along get ahead. Your personal vendetta against Smitherman seems out-of-line. Is there a war going on within the Black ranks? The way you put things it sure seems that way. Unless there is a declared state of open warfare, then your bad mouthing of Smitherman is an extension of obstacles every man and woman face daily within the established system. Something every Black Man and Black Woman doesn’t need to hear. Everyone is an “imperfect” individual. No one individual have all the right answers. Life is a growing process which is about gaining experiences. If at the end of the day, or by the end of a lifetime, one reflects back and say I wish I would have done this, or I wish I would have done that, then that would be a personal failure only if that individual fails to learn to correct his ways along his path through life. And I understand how hurtful those faults may be against other fellow beings ( after all we’re all in this together, some will gain while others will loose). But, whenever and individual attempts to contribute towards the advancement of Civil Rights, one should praise his efforts in the name of Black conscience. Black conscience is not a right or wrong thing. It is simply what it is, “INDIVISIBLE” !

Conscientiousness should be applauded and not rebuked.

Anonymous said...

Nate, you are great at gutter politics and that's not a compliment. Of course you already said this in your rant, but Smitherman's family isn't running for office.

Public servants are to be held to a different standard. Smitherman is attacking their records, not calling them names and making slanderous comments.

If you want to talk about Uncle Tom's then you should start with Ken Blackwell because he disenfranchised many African Americans. I know you'll say this is a lie, but you haven't looked at the evidence. The fact that you wont makes me question your desire to protect civil rights.

Anonymous said...

Nate, you are right to ask Splitherman what Mrs. Flowers was doing during the Movement. He wants to interrogate everybody else, why can't he provide some info on this old relative. He probably put some insurance on her before he sent the old bag out jaywalking with his crappy yard signs. Let this useless puke Splitherman answer to teh people.

Now Mrs. Flowers don't owe you nothing so you'd be way out of line to ask her to explain herself. But the Pimp should have to answer.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. Flowers is a powerful force in the civil rights fight without ever demanding the spotlight. How? Well, she successfully raised a son who became the first black Ph.D. hired by P&G - in the turbulent 60's no less. That's quite an accomplishement.

What do today's black women raise? The aren't growing up to be PHd's, I assure you.

When was the last time you read Uncle Tom's Cabin? Did you ever really read it? Uncle Tom was a great man.

Nate Livingston said...

"... Of course you already said this in your rant, but Smitherman's family isn't running for office."

Pay attention! Smitherman is clear that we shouldn't just ask elected officials about their participation in the struggle. Smitherman says public officials, boardroom executives, company CEOs, police administrators, and journalists should be questioned. It is reasonable to conclude that public school administrators, including Smitherman's parents, should also be questioned.

Instead of making excuses for the Smithermans, why don't you tell us what their life records on civil rights are? Where were Herb, Barbara, and Mrs. Flowers when they were 25? Were they playing the role of Uncle Toms or being silent between 1964 and 1968?


"Public servants are to be held to a different standard. Smitherman is attacking their records, not calling them names and making slanderous comments."

No he isn't! He is doing both. What do you call his characterization of Black people who don't do what he says as "Uncle Toms"?

Nate Livingston said...

Ronald

"The role of the Black Man and the Black Woman in the struggle for Civil Rights is much more dynamic than the attributing of merits solely on the basics of who is standing on the front lines! This very concept is trickery, and eroding of the accomplishments of the millions of Black Americans due credit just simply for enduring the daily hardships and struggles encountered on a daily basics to cope, let along get ahead."

For whatever reason, you aren't dealing with the subject of this blog entry. It's not that hard to understand what is being said here. Smitherman has established the standard to be used by the Black community to judge our fellow man and woman. According to General Smitherman, those people who didn't stand on the front lines are a bunch of Uncle Toms. This is Smitherman's concept, not mine. Now that I'm working to hold HIM and HIS FAMILY to the standard he set, people like you want to lecture ME on the importance of millions of Black Americans who have never stood on the front lines. It is not me who needs the lecture; it is Smitherman. Now, tell me why I didn't read a comment from you to Smitherman expressing your feeling that he was wrong to insult millions of Black Americans because they did the same thing he and his family did: sit on the sidelines and watch as other Blacks fought on the front lines of the civil rights movement.

"Everyone is an “imperfect” individual. No one individual have all the right answers. Life is a growing process which is about gaining experiences. If at the end of the day, or by the end of a lifetime, one reflects back and say I wish I would have done this, or I wish I would have done that, then that would be a personal failure only if that individual fails to learn to correct his ways along his path through life."

You aren't making yourself clear here. I guess you are trying to say that I shouldn't be hard on Smitherman because even though it has taken him 40 years to wake up and decide to get involved in the struggle at least he is awake now. (Well, his mouth says he is awake but I haven't seen him actually do anything to advance the struggle.) Better late than never.

I would agree with you and would be welcoming Smitherman to the fight if that were all that we had going on here. But there is more happening. Smitherman showed up on the scene and instead of thanking the people who came before him, trying to learn from them, and pledging to work with them, he went out, insulted their contributions, said no one knew what they were doing, and demanded to be made the leader. (This is exactly what he did to Edith Thrower.) Then Smitherman insulted people for not being more active in the struggle, when he has only been involved for a hot minute. And while all this is going on, all Smitherman can do is talk, talk, talk. He doesn't have a record of accomplishment. He was too stupid and lazy to write a letter to Council during the budget debate. He isn't a leader.

If you choose to look at all that Smitherman has done and said and responses to his statements and actions and conclude that this is a "personal vendetta" then go right ahead. You are wrong, but you have the right to be wrong. The good news is, most people reading this blog are intelligent enough to understand the truth.

Nate Livingston said...

"Mrs. Flowers is a powerful force in the civil rights fight without ever demanding the spotlight. How? Well, she successfully raised a son who became the first black Ph.D. hired by P&G - in the turbulent 60's no less. That's quite an accomplishement.

What do today's black women raise? The aren't growing up to be PHd's, I assure you."

Spoken like a true elitist. You must be a snobbish member of the Smitherman family.

So, Mrs. Flowers didn't need to stand with Marion Spencer or Rosa Parks because she too busy with more important business. She was raising Herbert Smitherman. Other mothers don't get a pass though because their sons didn't go on to get advanced degrees. And you think Mrs. Flowers is better than those mothers and today's Black women. Good grief!

At least we seem to have an admission that Mrs. Flowers was old enough to have stood with Dr. Spencer or Mrs. Parks but she decided not to do so. Now where were Herb and Barbara when they were 25? Why didn't Herb use his prestigious position at P&G, and his salary, to help the struggle? And what was Chris Smitherman's contribution to civil rights before he turned 38?

Anonymous said...

Actually Barbara Smitherman is Mrs. Flowers' daughter. Nate is right this bitch Chrissy the sissy Smitherman did nothing in the civil rights struggle and runs his mouth about what others should do? His family and himself should be held accountable and the question should be asked.
All he's gonna do is wait till Sunday to get on The Buzz and allude to people on the internet attacking him then he'll have his set-up call Jim Clingman call to pat him on the back and tell him "Consider the source Chris" then they will go on to pump each other up!
More of the same a.k.a. NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

It is pretty well known that Joe Smitherman is openly gay but Chris is still in the closet. Chris and Jim do more than pump each other up on the buzz if you know what I mean.

Anonymous said...

You said:
Spoken like a true elitist. You must be a snobbish member of the Smitherman family.

So, Mrs. Flowers didn't need to stand with Marion Spencer or Rosa Parks because she too busy with more important business. She was raising Herbert Smitherman. Other mothers don't get a pass though because their sons didn't go on to get advanced degrees. And you think Mrs. Flowers is better than those mothers and today's Black women. Good grief!

At least we seem to have an admission that Mrs. Flowers was old enough to have stood with Dr. Spencer or Mrs. Parks but she decided not to do so. Now where were Herb and Barbara when they were 25? Why didn't Herb use his prestigious position at P&G, and his salary, to help the struggle? And what was Chris Smitherman's contribution to civil rights before he turned 38?


Well, you clearly missed the point. The point, which was stated cleary, is that there are multiple ways to fight for civil rights. One way would be protesting, living in the spotlight. Another way is through financial and educational success. The surest way to demand equal treatment is to be an equal, not some whiner on the sidelines with a bullhorn and a sense of entitlement. Educational opportunities are all around us, the only requirement is the desire to learn, yet so few take that opportunity and limit their choices in life.

An elitist? Given that I think you're a total moron; I guess I am.

Nate Livingston said...

You Smitherman fan club members sure are either dumb or are just playing dumb because you don't want to answer the questions.

Chris Smitherman said anyone over the age of 65 who didn't march with Marian Spencer should be required to explain why? He implied that people who didn't march with Mrs. Spencer are Uncle Toms. Well, Christopher's grandmother, Mrs. Flowers, is over 65. Why wasn't she there? Christopher's father lived here in 1961. Why didn't he take his punk-ass out on the line and march with Mrs. Spencer? I'll tell you why, because he was too busy looking out for himself and getting fat off the money he took from Procter & Gamble.

Kent suggests Mrs. Flowers didn't live in Cincinnati at the time. Maybe she did and maybe she didn't. If she didn't, she lived in Alabama. What was her role in the civil rights struggle there?

Some say Christopher wasn't talking about people like Mrs. Flowers when he said we should hold ALL people accountable. I say bullshit!

Now you come along and say Christopher mentioned other ways to fight for civil rights. Oh, really! Since this point was so clearly stated, why don't you provide a quote?! You can't because no such point was made by General Smitherman. You are just lying because you don't like the fact that Christopher is, once again, telling other people what standard they should live up to when he and the members of his family don't do it.

If Christopher is looking for some people who meet his definition of Uncle Toms, all he has to do is open his family album.

Anonymous said...

Where was he? Getting his education from Ohio State University. Living the life of luxury,thanks to daddy, driving his Jaguar, taking vacations with family. He sold his Jaguar and bought a pick-up truck during his first run for city council! You're not from the hood Christopher, put your silver spoon back in!